U.S. citizens are human resources. What is a resource?
 

From a "We The People" email I get...

U.S. citizens are human resources. What is a resource?
To whom do the human resources belong?

WARNING: Information provided here will challenge your comfort zone and will involve some reading and research.

Can you handle the truth ?

All this nonsense needs to stop! People need to wake up to the reality of what is truly going on with this country known as America. Most importantly, this raises the defining question, do you really wish to be classified as a U.S. Citizen?

When I ask people -- Are you a US Citizen? .... and of course, most say YES, then I inform them about the US Code, actual citing 28 USC 3002 (15) A]
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...2----000-.html

and it defines the UNITED STATES as a corporation; then I ask them, "can you be a Citizen of Wal-Mart or Microsoft "? then of course they say NO, but then some try to say, well this is a country....which my response to that is ....not by definition it is not! The united States of America was a nation set up as a republic, but when you read this link: www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

you find out when that all changed in 1933 and why it is now a corporation.

The UNITED STATES CODE (USC) is the UNITED STATES corporation's governing code, period. Then some will attempt to say that they are citizens of the "California" (insert any State here) Republic. Ok, but there is no longer a Republic, anywhere, any more! People need to start reading and understanding how attorneys/ lawyers have altered the meaning of some common every day words to serve the corporation''s purposes. Some may call it legalese, and of course that is what it is.... but this has all been cloaked on purpose.

The attorneys, serving their masters, the international banking cartel or "banksters", used legal trickery to form these non-existent legal entities -- cities, counties, states, supposed federal governments, and in doing so, have created a monster big brother police state corporation.

Yes, indeed, boys and girls, the STATES are not sovereign as some people think, they are all under the big corporate umbrella --UNITED STATES -- and interestingly enough, this happened in 1933 as well. www.csg.org or go research the USC ! In 1933, the government was incorporated, or commercialized. To Commercialize means to "EXPLOIT." Therein lies the reason why the powers that be, "THE ATTORNEYS", change this conventional government to a legal fiction. This was to exploit with words, and done by the very men or women that hide behind the names or words.

Excerpt from book, "WOE UNTO YOU LAWYERS", written in 1939 by the late Fred Rodell, Professor of Law, Yale University:

It is the lawyers who run our civilization for us - our governments, our business, our private lives. Most legislators are lawyers; they make our laws. Most presidents, governors, commissioners, along with their advisers and brain-trusters are lawyers; they administer our laws. All the judges are lawyers; they interpret and enforce our laws. There is no separation of powers where the lawyers are concerned. There is only a concentration of all government power - in the lawyers. As the schoolboy put it, ours is "a government of lawyers, not of men."

It is not the businessmen, no matter how big, who run our economic world. Again it is the lawyers, the lawyers who "advise" and direct every time a company is formed, every time a bond or a share of stock is issued, almost every time material is to be bought or goods to be sold, every time a deal is made. The whole elaborate structure of industry and finance is a lawyer-made house. We all live in it, but the lawyers run it.

And in our private lives, we cannot buy a home or rent an apartment, we cannot get married or try to get divorced, we cannot die and leave our property to our children without calling on the lawyers to guide us. To guide us, incidentally, through a maze of confusing gestures and formalities that lawyers have created.

LINK to entire text of the book:
http://www.constitution.org/lrev/rod...ou_lawyers.htm

Okay, so let's put this real simply, someone nearly has to look at a city's police car to find out who they (the police officers) are truly "protecting and serving". For example, in the city known as Chicago, it is clearly displayed on the car, "City of Chicago, Incorporated 1837" along with it's corporate seal. www.chipublib.org/004chicago/chiseal.html Okay, now I know that all society's need order and a set of laws. I'm an advocate of common law myself. If you don't know what that is, go look it up.

To get an idea how whacky this corporation driven system has become, people who are working for these corporations after a while realize that there is indeed some thing terribly wrong, but most just keep their mouths shut, because it is job security and they say "hey, I am just doing my job".

Getting back to the example of common law - how can a man or a woman injure a fictional entity, non-existent corporation?? They cannot, it is impossible! For even further research, do yourself a favor and read some of the great articles at

http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com

Excerpt example:
Marc: Am I entitled to a fair trial/hearing?
Judge: Yes you are.
Marc: Could I get a fair trial/hearing if there is a conflict of interest?
Judge: No, you could not.
Marc: If there was a conflict of interest, would you recuse yourself?
Judge: Yes I would.
Marc: Who do you represent?
Judge: The State.
Marc: If you represent the state, and the state is the plaintiff, then you represent a party (in this case), isn't that a conflict of interest?

The author, One, Steven, is a well-researched man and is not a person, not a subject or citizen nor has any allegiance to any country, State or States in contract, not a U.S. Citizen or National, not a civilian, not a resident, not an legal entity dolus trust, not an enemy combatant, and One is not a member of any Jural, political or religious society/body. Be it also known that "person" is a word of the Private Civil Law, and a "man" is a word of nature. One governs life under natural, moral and Universal Laws of Love, Honor and Respect.

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Uh huh,amazing isnt it,people like Ulyesses and Fvk claim that a utopian dream can be aquired through lifting the whole boat,what a joke time and again examples always help more than frebies.

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Still Love Governments?
Written by Marc Stevens
Tuesday, 13 March 2007

It's truly amazing despite all the crimes committed by governments, people still religiously cling to the idea governments are necessary to protect life, liberty and property. You can even point out governments not only have no duty to protect anyone, but also do a disasterous job at whatever they bother doing. Despite overwhelming evidence government is not only unnecessary, corrupt and a cancer on the world, its victims continue to revere them. Maybe this will help convince them governments are nothing more than gangs of killers, thieves and liars.

Show a friend who believes governments are necessary this copy of title 50 of the United States Code, section 1520 (this "law" was repealed in 1998 by those same people who said they were not wiretapping without a "warrant"). This "law" authorizes the "Department of Defense" to conduct chemical and biological warfare experiments on "civilian populations". You'll notice there is nothing in there about about informing the "civilian population" and getting their consent. While the only ones "notified" are "local civilian officials", there is nothing about getting consent first.

I seem to remember hearing something about a dictator in the middle east being accused of doing something like this.

It'll warm your heart to know chemical and biological agents are weapons of mass destruction. This means the "Department of Defense" conducts experiments on "civilian populations" with weapons of mass destruction. Maybe I'm just being cynical, I just don't think you protect people by attacking them with weapons of mass destruction. Maybe the anthrax attacks after 911 was just an authorized "experiment"?

If you think I'm "paranoid", consider all the "programs" conducted by governments that are "classified", where governments deny their existence for decades. MK-Ultra and Operation Northwoods are good examples. If attacking "civilian populations" with weapons of mass destruction is admitted and shamelessly advertised in the United States Code, then what is being hidden or "classified"? Don't worry, you only need to wait fifty or so years to find out.

Have any of the "local civilian officials" where you live ever notified you of a chemical and biological warfare "experiment" being conducted? Of course these "experiments" are harmless and for our benefit, that's why you and I are not informed. Once again, with government our consent is not necessary. Do you like the idea of being "experimented" on without your consent?

Yes, governments are wonderful, after all, without governments who'll conduct those lovely chemical and biological warfare "experiments" on entire populations? Who'll steal trillions of "dollars" worth of our energy every year? Who'll conduct horrific mind control "experiments" and domestic terrorists acts? Just how do you wage wars without governments?

Look at the hypocrisy, there are over 40,000 paramilitary raids conducted in the United States every year because "drugs are bad," while there are whole populations being attacked with weapons of mass destruction. Which group is doing the drugs here?

The government solution to every problem is simple: launch another attack on the people. When you think about it, that's about the only thing governments are good at. So if you're still a skeptic or know one, remember 50 USC section 1520 where the "Department of Defense" is authorized to conduct chemical and biological warfare "experiments" on populations.

http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com...nt/view/58/27/

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One startling quote in this article is from Admiral Stanley Arthur, Commander of U.S. naval forces during the Gulf War, where he says, "Today the armed forces are no longer representative of the people they serve. More and more, enlisted as well as officers are beginning to feel they are special, better than the society they serve."

Isn't this special, bet they can't wait to use their new training on us in the good ole USA ! And What A Great Resourse for the Govt.

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You are a work unit.

A part which is developed to be slotted into the machine, examined and evaluated, installed, where you will vibrate, be put under stress, produce torque and a working moment, and help to innovate efficiency and grow the machine further.

You will be oiled just enough to allow you to function.

Once you are worn and no longer fit into the required tolerances, you are removed by the owner, replaced and promptly disposed of.

"Human Resource" = "Replaceable Commodity".

Accountant (CPA) = GOD.

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Great AG,

Thanks for completeing the original post and opening the doorway to a solution.

Too often you only get the bickering. Raising awareness is useless if people don't follow it up with solutions.

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Goldhedge, just follow the YELLOW BRICK ROAD....

Department of Treasury

Department of Health and Human Services

Internal Revenue Service

Social Security Administration

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Time for some Floyd, Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

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Floyd had it so right...

The sad thing is, nothing has changed...

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Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall

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Why is everyone so cryptic on this matter? Can't it just be spelled out? In other words, what is the "default" status, where is this status recorded, and how (is it possible) does a person rectify their status? Additionally what are the PRACTICAL consequences of a self-determined status as it would work out in real life?

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A while back I was following the online blog of a preacher who was trying to renounce his (and his family's) social security number. He was clearly told that there was NO way to do this. Perhaps it is not entirely possible to correct your status as an individual?

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Is there a definitive book on the subject of Corporate America and the USC?

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Doesn't it stand to reason that you would HAVE TO be a "citizen" (employee) of Corporate America in order to live on Corporate America's land? In other words, is it possible to opt yourself right out of the country (physically)?

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Last I heard, there is no law requiring any private individual to have a social security number, only that employers can't discriminate against applicants not having one. But, of course, they do that or they are in a position to lose their licenses to do business. I think its corporate law we're dealing with here, rather than legal law, but I'd be glad if someone could clear it up for me by showing the law stating otherwise.

I also think it is primarily our signatures on applications for SS #s that gets our a$$e$ in the proverbial crack.

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So, if my parents signed for my SS #, then I'm not liable for it?

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Ever read this guy's book? http://www.supremelaw.org/

In other SHTF threads we have talked about the value of going along with the system as a survival technique. Does that apply in this instance? Doesn't it make some sense to quietly slip into the shadows and live out the rest of your life without poking a stick in the bee-hive?

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Here is a link regarding leaving SSN:

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/In...alSecurity.htm

There is a ton of information on this website (hopefully it's all credible).

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Exactly. But if you want to correct your status, that's where you start.

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Told NO by whom? The SSA? Hahahaha....

SLV, PM me.

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Could you be any more vague?

I think SLV is looking for the actual, tangible process of accomplishing what you are stating.

First thing you need to do is rescind the adhesion contracts by filing a notarized affidavit.

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What???

No, there is actually a legal process you need to take on.

Simply "making up your mind" to do something changes NOTHING. Status remains. You need to follow through with real actions.

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National sovereign

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You are if you don't file affidavit to rescind it.

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How does one go about this? Are the forms available at the Family Guardian website link the way to do this?

I've been wanting to do this sort of thing for some time, but the sheer amount of info regarding the process seems overwhelming.

Has anyone here successfully "left the system" in the legal sense (no more SS, no more income tax, etc.)? Anyone here now a "national sovereign"? I'm looking to you, Juristic Person, Great Ag, David Merrill...

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PM me and I will give you more info.

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No bank accounts either.

Great Ag, this thread really does tie into the USC 411 thread as well.

This really isn't a simple process but it can be done. I wish Sukoi would add to this conversation. I think he knows a lot more than he lets on.

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I can understand if he wants to remain coy. It is a personal decision, and if I was in his shoes I wouldn't want to open myself up to liability by advising others.

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I see what you mean but I do think he could at least tell what he knows and what has/has not worked for him - without giving any advice.

No liability in offering an opinion and past experiences.